Tuesday, 23 January 2024

Watch out for those rabbit holes

This is duplicated across the way ... confession ... but as it seems germane to current events ......

There are certainly overt and covert agendas going on by those getting their messages and theatre to us, one way or the other ... the covert being the difficult one to get a line on ... they're far more subtle.

Schultz, Gates, Fauci ... textbook villains, plus the SpAds behind them writing and directing ... their theatre is easy enough to see, they're up front pantomime baddies.

We also know about the sleeper betrayers such as Barrett on SCOTUS who are either deliberately doing it because they're henchmen-myrmidons or else they've been so long in the company of bad people that they fail to nail ... or else there's blackmail involved (paedo island and similar are examples) ... or else they're dogood people doing essentially bad things, such as cherry-picking "Christians", gaia/shamballa pagans/treehuggers ... wanting so much that everyone loves each other, often in sick ways ... actually doing bad, doing destructive things which in aggregate brings down the society itself.

But we also have to examine the messengers, such as that Spaniard in the US:


... who makes his living, it seems, being an "expert" at examining footage and then doing longish analyses in vlog form, always exhorting us to like and subscribe, hitting the bell and joining Patreon, the moneymaking racket such as Gofundme, remember them?

No analysts are going to talk total bullsh ... just as the left wokerati see and hear feelgood buzz phrases and the blurbs of the messengers have a veneer of verisimilitude, of rightness ... there are always morsels of truth which are taken, they utter wise things until you delve further ... what happens after that or down the track is too often a twisting, like Welby or the antiPope misusing biblical passages to support unbiblical wrongdoing.

All of us are trying to make sense of what's going down but we're coming from quite different angles, which adds bias ... no two ways about it.  Each has his/her hobbyhorse.  And our choice of what to examine first, second, third, depends on those angles we're coming from, that bias.

There's an analyst I was watching for awhile who said many things which chimed in with men's grievances but it became apparent by the nth vlog that she was very iffy indeed ... having a room of black baddies with her lounging about, in order to attack a lone feminazi ... that was twisted, yet she was grinning ... and personally sloppy.


There's an analyst I saw last night:


... and that was an expanded About page ... you'll notice the everpresent like, subscribe, plus the patreon gimme money thing.

What I clicked out for was not about him specifically, and certainly not the sender to me ... the latter I'm sure had the purist motives ... no, it was dwelling, for well over fifteen minutes, on Anne bloody Hathaway's verbal diarrhoea.

Yes, he should have called it out, even given one or two short examples... but 16:23 of our time on AH's bollox, or Katy Perry or ehoever in the celeb cult?

This becomes very much what I call the Podesta or Elton John syndrome. There are things such as the Barbara Streisand syndrome, the Trump Derangement syndrome ... well why not a Podesta or Elton John syndrome?  It's where something is put up, which cannot be unseen, which nauseates all day, even for a few days, reducing our ability to function, to fight the good fight ...

... and it was unnecessary. Quick glance, yes ... not wallowing in the thing, almost to the point of prurience.  Trouble is, all our patrons in the tavern have come from different directions and are at different stages of ferreting ... IYE put it well at NOWP:

Just fallen down another rabbit hole.

Never a truer word in the conclusion:

Seems it is getting harder to trust anything or anyone. Them have their gatekeepers everywhere.

Every one of us, having become an inveterate ferreter, meets slip roads to oblivion, rabbit holes to go down ... trick is not to dwell, which is one motivation behind the N.O. way of covering a lot of ground ... unfortunately not in great depth ... for the depth, all we can do is provide links or hints, as in this post ... mini screenshots.

We're inundated, guys and gals, so many rabbit holes to fall down.

And motivation ... what is the motivation of the examined, the real motivstion ... the agend? IYE again:

never come across him before. Not liking what he’s into or his funding connections or his supporters

Whom do we trust ... and even then up to the point of his or her hobbyhorses? I do feel we're getting there and yet ... and yet ... on X, I tweeted some pretty provocative things about airdropping the miscreants over mecca etc. ... zero pushback, unless I'd been shadowbanned and it had never actually made it to print outside my timeline.

That's the state of play ... suspicion, caution, are not bad modes to be in for now ... never taking at face value, even if it comes back to bite us. I was wrong on thst Pearl, I could well becerong on other prophets and scribes ... time might tell.

Meanwhile, we sre pretty well agreed across soc-med about certain core ideas, e.g. on the vaxxes, on celeb culture and the MSM, on the courts now ... on who is controlling world policies.

Monday, 22 January 2024

As Well They Might Be Embarassed...

...even academics who learn I am working on the topic of fatphobia are often quick to change the subject, turning away in embarrassed silence.
In fact, it's a good thing. It shows they still have some shame about how far academia has fallen.
So why are we getting better on most forms of bias while becoming arguably even more fatphobic as a society? Part of the answer has to do with the fact that fatness, unlike many other forms of marginalisation, is perceived as a choice.

For a vast majority of them, it is. The fact that we have 'fat activists' at all proves that. What other reasons could there be? 

But careful attention to the evidence on this topic paints a different picture. Numerous factors – from our inequitable food environment to economic injustice to stress to trauma to common health conditions and medications – dictate our size, and a combination of these have contributed to an uptick in fatness in both the US and the UK, among other countries, in recent decades.

I fail to see how an 'inequitable food environment' contributes to anything, let alone the rise of lardarses... 

True political progress requires that we pause and look around and extend a sympathetic – better, solidaristic – arm to everyone. There should be no limit to our capacity as humans for inclusivity; there should be no size restrictions either.

Go tell gravity that, love. If it listens, I might.  

Sunday, 21 January 2024

Burn in hell, Lenin

Some are commemorating Lenin on social media … why should I be any different? 

Here’s my eulogy:


Must add this, posted just now:

Saturday, 20 January 2024

Go Woke, go broke

This is is unsafe ground. It may turn out that the vlogger is ok, it might not. There’s another on my “youtube recommended” page concerning the Licence Fee, BBC etc. but still not sure about that Brit vlogger, seems a bit mainstream to me … but so is this one … named Adam Post … who is another “modernist” it seems.

His style is breathless and frenetic, like an MSM reporter or journo … which is quite offputting … he pushes and pushes and labours points as if we can’t read headlines for ourselves and he doesn’t move on until he’s sure we get the point … later he returns and re-reads.

This, to me, is “controlling journalusm” instead of “just the facts, man (ma’am) … and for me, it’s quite offputting, as bad as background noise (music) designed to set the mood but in fact drowning out or at a minimum distracting the listener.

So … for me … huge negatives with this guy … I did try to delve but got not far … he seems not gay.


His line, as far as I can gather, is that we should not morally judge but ask only does the ad fit the firm’s culture. By the same logic, Hamas atrocities are fine, grooming gangs are fine, as long as it “reflects modern culture”, that is … not trad culture.

And that’s where I don’t buy. So, see how much of this you can put up with but don’t say, good reader, that you weren’t warned, all right?

Friday, 19 January 2024

These Aren't The Films And TV I Grew Up With...

Foster revealed how she had also challenged pervading gender stereotypes in her own family.
Talking about raising her children, whom she had with her former partner Cydney Bernard, and now raises with her wife, Alexandra Hedison, she said: “There was a moment with my older one when he was in high school, when, because he was raised by two women – three women – it was like he was trying to figure out what it was to be a boy.
“And he watched television and came to the conclusion: oh, I just need to be an asshole. I understand. I need to be shitty to women and act like I’m a fucker.
“And I was like: ‘No. That’s not what it is to be a man! That’s what our culture has been selling you for all this time.’”

Really? I grew up with pretty wholesome tv and films, where this decidedly was not the norm. Where masculinity was something noble, protective. I grew up with 'Lassie', 'Champion The Wonder Horse', 'Skippy The Bush Kangaroo' on TV, and films like 'A Matter Of Life And Death', 'The Guns of Navarone' and 'Shane'. What has changed?

And should Foster perhaps be looking in the mirror to find out? 

Thursday, 18 January 2024

The smell of coffee

If I, personally, have been tardy in jumping into the Davos fray, soc-med has not, nor have our chaps plus chapesses at many sites, thank goodness.

Disappointing is the so called “free” media like Epoch Times but against that, they did clearly set out their terms and conditions at the outset … there is no dispute and if my “free trial” in getting news has now “expired” right before things hot up in Davos and Washington, the timing is unfortunate.

Be the T&Cs, the business plan … $$$$ for information … invidious and insidious … nevertheless, it was clearly stated, never hidden away in the “fine print”. So what cause have I to complain?

Well what cause had the Merchant of Venice to complain? On the surface … none. I’m afraid I’m not like Portia who then starts speaking eloquently of “the quality of mercy”. Sorry, but a deal is a deal, just as student “loan forgiveness” is not a thing … if you signed on the dotted line, then shylock colleges or whoever the lenders were have every right to enforce their side of the bargain.

I for one am not going to start on about “free” education for all … who’s going to pay for fabric, buildings, pay staff wages and salaries?  The discussion is not the Ts&Cs after they’re agreed … a loan requiring repayment … the discussion should be, at any time, about the system in the first place and what “society” requires.

If dumbo kids appallingly brought up and “taught” appalling guff feel that they are the new golden age of educational opportunity, will that, tied to money, produce the new thinkers of the age?  

Nope … it will produce mediocrity, just as in parliament and in congress.  In Britain, the way around it was grammar schools but look at the furious opposition from various quarters.  

In the same way that the usurers clearly set out their Ts&Cs, so Epoch shut down all but the clickbait headline:
One of the things being pointed out about the transnational elite is that, for the most part, they are not hiding who they are and what they want.”
Very true … they’re clearly telegraphing it, putting it out there, with devastating consequences for common humanity … see the Covid deaths following Event 201 at Johns Hopkins.  They’re brazenly flaunting it at Davos … unelected globopsycho capturing the world decision making processing over and pesky national “Constitution” … and who is ready to wrest it back from them?

Incidentally, it was about Jordan Peterson “losing” his “appeal” to deep captcha educational “regulators” and “authorities”, not unlike with the Hutton and current Covid reports … and the upshot? It was to strike JP off the register of “qualified” educators.

In my early blogging around 2006, I was often quoting “ex-illumined” Svali, about whom no one seems to have heard of late. In 2000, she was interviewed by HJ Springer, Chief Editor CentrExNews.com., and I posted the salient points at the time … for example:
Weishaupt did not create the Illuminati, they chose him as a figurehead and told him what to write about. The financiers, dating back to the bankers during the times of the Templar Knights who financed the early kings in Europe, created [Them]. Weishaupt was their "go fer", who did their bidding.
Plus:
Are all Masons [of Them]? No, especially at the lower levels, I believe they know nothing of the practices that occur in the middle of the night in the larger temples. Many are probably fine businessmen and Christians. But I have never known a 32 degree or above who wasn't [Them], and the group helped create Freemasonry as a "front" for their activities.
I’m thinking of course, in 2024, of paedo island, underground tunnels to child-holding areas even in NYC (Disneyland? Denver Airport?) but not only there. The Temple of Alexandria in Virginia was much mentioned.  Nasty things there? Also at McMartin preschool in the 80s? Tunnels again, folks. Interesting, that motif, no? 

Svali spoke, in that 2000 interview in Toronto, of some of the practices:
I have seen set ups where a person was "burned alive" to teach the children not to tell. They are told that this is a traitor, who disclosed and now he is being punished. (The person wasn't really a traitor, and is in a flame proof vest, but the vision of a person on fire and screaming remains with 3 and 4 year old children for a lifetime).
If I dare quote Ephesians 6:12, readers turn away. Yet these people fully subscribe to the “mystery religions” and talk of The Great Work of Ages and until recently, did not so much as murmur. Why not? 

Svali:

I was taught that the (Them) had its roots in the ancient practices that reach into the beginning of recorded time; that the Babylonians on the plains created ziggurats to their deities, whom the (Them) worship. They were proud of the fact that it was supposedly an unbroken occult line from then until now.

Just before you dismiss that, explain George HW Bush's 1000 points of light reference?  Explain Skull and Bones.  Bohemian Grove.  Tell me about Nimrod and Semiramus. And Obama at his acceptance - the Berlin temple of Ish *** - complete accident?  

I mean … at which stage are we going to get real?  Symbolism, yes but they do believe in this s***.  That's whom we're dealing with. Not me? I don’t buy it, I mention what they buy, lock, stock and barrel. And the practices are very, very nasty:

[M]y mother was friends with Sid Gottlieb, who was part of the CIA. The farm I grew up on was only about a half hour away from his home in Culpeper, Va. She also knew the Dulles family. A lot of the researchers in the CIA were part of it, and I visited Langley, Va. at intervals growing up. MK-Ultra was funded in part with Illuminati money. These people use the most sophisticated mind control techniques on their members, believe me.

As they kept saying in The X Files … the truth is out there. We in the edgy soc-med would add … often in plain sight.

One from Svali I've quoted many times:

One reason that our economy continues limping along is the artificial support that the Federal Reserve had given it, manipulating interest rates, etc. But one day, this won't work (or this leverage will be withdrawn on purpose) and the next great depression will hit. The government will call in its bonds and loans, and credit card debts will be called in. 

There will be massive bankruptcies nationwide. Europe will stabilize first and then Germany, France and England will have the strongest economies, and will institute, through the UN, an international currency. Japan will also pull out, although their economy will be weakened.

Well of course.  New currency.  Electronic, no cash. People's lives meaning zero to these people - never did but now it's in the open. You want to stay alive?  Comply. Interestingly, Svali never mentioned The Great Replacement, the mass invasion. She mentioned China all right, flexing its muscles invidiously and insidiously, but never quite got onto the non-European invasion of the west.

Again … in fairly recent history … Operation Paperclip was far more than one country availing itself of another's naughty boys … they were all part of the same stateless firm to begin with.  

While munitions and weapons were a major part of it, as was human trafficking and misery, degradation, so was the whole drug trade and this strayed into the psycho-psychiatrist field - drugs, hypnosis that people like Estabrooks were involved in, Ewen Cameron, Selwyn Leeks, Jolyon whatsisname and this one, a true monster:


And this:


Corey and Polly, blogger and vlogger, exposed much of it from a different angle:




Keep the name Brock in the back of your mind by the way, also a chap called Pence, one of his mates called Fauci, another called Birx. 

End game? Svali was of the opinion, based on their plans, as she’d been taught:


Far removed from our everyday lives? Torquaymada writes:
One would have to question the sanity of anybody contemplating getting the vaccine after listening to this...
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/covid-vaccine-is-poison-says-dr-peter-mccullough/

I wrote, on Mar 14, 2022:
When Svali said, in 2000, oft quoted at this site, that the Americans and Russians were actually colluding at the top levels and having a good laugh, that does not ring any bells for most, so it's quickly skipped over. Springmeier came out with the thirteen families which rule, Svali said that in 2020, debts would be called in and a new currency introduced, the NWO leaders would be announced and society would move into that next phase.
I began writing on these matters in July 2006 and was called a whack-job … many agreed … do they still agree now? Or is it more like those memes and other screenshots gathered over time?






Are people going to remain, as “Completely Ignerant” wrote above … completely “ignerant” or are 10% or so going to wake up to 70% to 80% of what’s really going down, unable to face up to the last 30%, whilst soc-medding in such a learned way, to large readerships?

Wednesday, 17 January 2024

You Cried 'Wolf' Once Too Often...

...and the parents now know there aren't any.
Parents who take their children out of school to go on holiday are damaging their life chances, the shadow education secretary warned yesterday.
Bridget Phillipson urged parents to 'reflect seriously' on the impact of unnecessary absences on their youngsters and the wider school community. In an interview yesterday, she said that while it can be 'tough', it is 'really important that children are in school' as 'every day matters'.

Do you think parents are going to swallow that now? When you did nothing during lockdown but slavisly support the government? 

Ms Phillipson's comments came as a new poll found almost one in three parents believe the coronavirus pandemic has shown it is not essential for children to attend school every day.

One wonders exactly what's wrong with the other two thirds that they don't believe that. 

Tuesday, 16 January 2024

In which a rant is reposted

Going to open with a quote of myself half an hour ago in a letter:

Just awoke for part two of the day at 06:56 … it says both dispatched and at final delivery station but not out yet for delivery.

Ok, some extra sleep, not enough. Plus it’s training day for me. Hmmmmm.

My thinking is we can only take so much and no more of those people out there and their silly behaviour. A few change but most remain silly … we see it, spend our own time on it … they just keep on as they were until it all crashes.”

One interesting bit from the other party in the conversation … and might do a post on pets in the light of Julia’s posts too on pitbulls or whatever they are:

“I love animals and enjoyed pets but society has gone bonkers and is putting K-9s and felines on pedestals. It is crazy!  Also many people here use their animals for attention in town. People magnets. Or as (person named) used to say, When you walk a dog or a baby they are chick magnets!”

Yep, post coming up sometime on that. I mentioned neighbours’ new cat and how I like cats and dogs, they generally like me … but cats send me into a sneezing fit … plus I’m ok with babies but not so good looking after pets, plants or women in no particular order.

Anyway, back to TDS and an item by author MftWC, two things caught my eye … one was how we have battle lines drawn … can’t stand those misguided people in their arrogance … the other was … yes indeed … whole bleedin’ thing has been planned out.

Caught something on Epoch about a key Trump lawyer withdrawing … judging from the picture, a woman … but Epoch started their tricky dicky games did I wish to choose this package to continue reading? Second expletive word was “off”.

Everything is intended to deliberately trigger, just as in Rwanda after Kissinger had departed … there’d been a form of peace till then … now the hootsies and tootsies were slaughtering each other. Kissinger the “Quiet American”. And look at Russia in the Ukraine … perfect for the demonic globopsychos.

One thing I cannot stand is those targetting specifically for core reasons which seem disingenuous. There’s one I’ve unsubscribed from called Pearl who put out some good anti modern idiot wimmin things, including tee shirts saying women should not have the vote.

Another thing I noticed was as her subscribers went into the million and even my mate up the road is taken in by her, I bet he’d not seen the one with the big black muvvers of a certain disposition in the room with an older black woman of old radical ideas, then there was Pearl herself slobbing around on a couch on the other side and the arrogance was showing through the features, inc. exposed legs.

And the target? Seated by herself mid screen at the back was a small, white, young cutie we’re told is a feminist.  And she goes off her nut says the clickbait heading … I didn’t stop to find out, with this Pearl playing up to the big blacks something awful.

No, no, no, no … thought I … this whole thing is too contrived, arrogant … look, I’ve no truck with feminazis as you know … nor do you … but this was a lone girl feminist on her own, no one supporting her … at least even up the numbers. I did NOT like the set up, as bad as any the BBC or MSNBC set up.

So I went back to this Melanie and at least it made some sense:


… but then I realised it was more of the same … look, how do these puppet masters do it?  Drive the wedge in?

Is it not that they identify key triggers, festering grievances, core sore points, then they plunge that knife in and keep twisting it and keep twisting it.  Yes, disrespect is a core issue for sure … but it’s not only female white on male white … remember she’s not female white, this vlogger.

That’s a point you know. And as my MGTOW hackles rose, it was easy to forget my very good friendships with some ladies and we do have those and they’re not toxic, we talk things through, as we should. Yet vlogs are telling me just how bad “modern, young hoes” are … meaning modern, young, white hoes … plus the Fani types … revolting creatures.

So I stop and think hang on … I have some good female “mates” … but according to youtube stars, it’s not at all possible.  Cyber life eclipses real life.

Then I look at what we do here … item after item after item. That will continue, readers, but maybe we need to be even more circumspect at what divides us, how Them play on sore points. Maybe we should just look to keep our own friendships in good repair, as the Good Lord said. Maybe we should just keep some perspective … at the same time keeping that weapon at hand, just in case.

And on that point, I saw a self defence tips vid by some ex SAS or whatever and his first few points really were excellent:

* Be field aware. I’ve been saying this for decades to people … develop 270 degree vision, which includes looking down and behind, keep scanning the field around you … unsafe ground … don’t enter it. Even one of these girl vloggers said that girls tend to concentrate on the target at hand, don’t always look beyond. I’d say many males do that too.

* Field aware also means ditching illusions right now. Any one person of certain demographics I see … I take steps … early … to avoid. Also being aware where they might be hiding out, where they may be en masse, which routes they would take from there to town etc. etc.  Be aware for goodness sake, not naively oblivious.

* Be more aggressive but keep still, quietly waiting. When I enter a space, I occupy territory … but one step back … watching like a hawk. Generally, but not always, they cross the road early. If they don’t, I slip back to the last safe area. 

* You need to give off an element of menace, stand bolt upright, no old man shuffling … that poor lil ole grandpa thing is not going to trigger compassion, it’s going to say hey, come attack me. I’d say each one of us needs to develop good body language now, increasingly so … not in fear but with quiet menace.

* He also repeated the old Dirty Harry thing … know your limits. Any success you have will be in the first two seconds … after that, you’re dead meat. Whatever you’re going to do … do it in those first two seconds. What is that thing you’ll do? In a girl’s case, if not mace or pepper spray, then there are many similar immobilisers you could carry.

Nuff for now, here endeth the rant in favour of a covfefe break. Going to run this at OoL too.

Monday, 15 January 2024

The King………and I

The Royal Regiment of Wales has a singular motto: it reads, “Gwell Angau na Chywilydd: Death rather than Dishonour.” 

That motto, that sentence, indeed that statement says, in those few words, everything that matters in life. However, back to that motto: Death rather than Dishonour. I re-ran a sector of Netflix’ the Crown on my t.v., not forgetting that it was a fictionalised commentary upon, at that time, The Man Who Would Be King, and his approach to His marriage, and also with the slag who now sits  as Queen upon the Throne of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, beside the Man who is now King.

I sometimes tend to forget that there is a vast gulf between those whose lives are within ‘The Establishment’ and ordinary people, and that ‘gulf’ was so apparent in the life, the training, the very upbringing, of that ‘Man who would be King’. Their lives, even the way in which they think, is so very different to people like me. It is claimed that when Charles first met Camilla, he was immediately smitten, and whilst dating, they became intimate. 


Whether true or not, I neither know nor care, but by the strange rules which seem to govern the ‘Elite’, which calls for the man to marry a virgin; this intimacy ruled Camilla out as a immediate marriage partner: but Charles continued to cling to Camilla’s memory. He met Diana, and in the most abbreviated courtship known to civilised society, they became engaged after meeting only thirteen times. 


After marriage, Diana soon became mother to the heir, and soon after the ‘spare’, but she also became one of the most photographed women in the world, for she possessed a rare beauty; and unfortunately for Charles, placed him in her shadow in popularity.


It is known that, despite his marriage, Charles was soon back in touch with his old flame Camilla. Unfortunately for Charles, she was now a married mother, but there seemed to be a peculiar echo of earlier times, with the late Duke of Windsor’s predilection towards women who happened to be other men’s wives. When Diana’s marriage became strained, Charles took refuge in a return to Camilla, and one very intimate phone conversation was recorded, and sold to the Mirror newspaper. 


This recording wasn’t published at that time, as the newspaper’s editors did not wish to be seen to help further fracture a Royal marriage, but when the Queen consented to the request that her son and his wife become separated; all bets were off, and the tape was published, becoming known as ‘Camillagate’. Diana’s worst fears were confirmed, as those recorded words were splashed all across the Western world, and her beliefs of Charles’ adulterous behaviour were hardened into reality.


We all know of what followed, with the divorce; with Charles snuggled up with his slag, who had finally been kicked out of the marital home by an incandescent Brigadier Carter Bowles: and Diana rebuilding her own life. When she met her death in that Paris tunnel, driven by a drunk who should have been ten miles away from the controls of a powerful car, at least Charles had the good sense to demand that a Queen’s Flight jet be given him, so that the dead mother of a future King be returned to England with dignity.

Whatever sadness might have remained after Diana’s death was soon eclipsed, as it was just on the year after the funeral were Charles and his choice of partner seen together as a couple. He married her, and after the death of his mother, Elizabeth 2, he let it be known that the slag would become Queen when he was crowned. His memory must be extremely short-spanned, or perhaps that slogan “ Death rather than Dishonour. “ never really meant much to ‘The Man who would be King’.

Passing A Law Is Only The Start...

Under Clare’s law – named after Clare Wood, 36, who was murdered in 2009 by her ex-boyfriend George Appleton – people have a right to ask police whether a partner or ex-partner has a history of abusive behaviour. Public bodies can also apply to warn people who may be in danger.

Hurrah! Job done, everyone off to the pub to celebrate! 

But an analysis of official data has found dramatic variations in the implementation of Clare’s law, which is officially known as the domestic violence disclosure scheme, with some forces supplying information in up to 75% of cases, while others reject almost all requests.

Ah. Maybe not. 

Experts said there were multiple reasons why police forces could have drastically different disclosure rates, including that some did not prioritise Clare’s law requests, took different approaches to perpetrators’ privacy rights, or applied different standards when assessing whether applications met the threshold.

*sighs* Back to the drawing board...